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Blue Bird Corporation (NASDAQ:), a number one faculty bus producer, has introduced file monetary outcomes for the fiscal 2024 first quarter. The firm reported a file adjusted EBITDA of $48 million and a powerful adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%. Net gross sales income reached an all-time excessive, bolstered by a 9% improve in class bus gross sales in comparison with the earlier 12 months and a big progress in electrical bus deliveries. With a strong backlog of 4,600 items for college buses and a constructive outlook for electrical autos (EVs), Blue Bird has up to date its fiscal 2024 steering, aiming for income between $1.15 billion and $1.25 billion, and an adjusted EBITDA between $120 million to $140 million. The firm additionally introduced a share repurchase program valued at as much as $60 million.
Key Takeaways
- Blue Bird achieved file adjusted EBITDA and web gross sales income in Q1 fiscal 2024.
- School bus gross sales elevated by 9%, with a wholesome backlog of 4,600 items.
- Electric bus deliveries greater than doubled, with sturdy EV order backlog.
- Average promoting worth per bus elevated by 26% because of important worth hikes over two years.
- The firm launched Clean Bus Solutions JV, providing electrical buses and charging options.
- Blue Bird raised fiscal 2024 income steering to $1.15 billion – $1.25 billion and adjusted EBITDA to $120 million – $140 million.
- A share repurchase program of as much as $60 million was introduced.
Company Outlook
- Blue Bird plans to spend money on R&D, EV choices, and capability enlargement to assist progress.
- Short-term goal: adjusted EBITDA margin of 11%, with income reaching $1.35 billion by 2025.
- Medium-term expectations embrace supporting volumes of 10,500 to 11,000 items and producing revenues of $1.5 billion to $1.7 billion.
- Long-term purpose: drive progress in direction of roughly $2 billion in income, with as much as 12,000 items, together with as much as 5,000 EVs.
Bearish Highlights
- The uncertainty of building all items within the close to time period as a result of COVID-19 pandemic.
- Expected decrease EBITDA in quarters two to 4 in comparison with the primary quarter.
- Increased engineering prices anticipated for the following few years because of long-term tasks.
- Challenges in infrastructure improvement for electrical autos.
Bullish Highlights
- Strong demand for college buses and electrical buses, with a strong backlog.
- Significant worth will increase have led to a better common promoting worth per bus.
- The firm has gained market share and boasts a powerful product vary.
- Confidence in attaining a 30% win fee for EPA grants and a vibrant future forward.
Misses
- The firm is conservative in its income steering because of provide chain constraints.
- Costs are anticipated to be back-end loaded, which can affect EBITDA margin.
Q&A Highlights
- Blue Bird didn’t take an prolonged shutdown this 12 months, resulting in extra working days in Q1.
- The firm is working with charging companions to assist the deployment of electrical buses.
- Competition within the different gas market has retreated, giving Blue Bird a bonus.
- The recent win of 180 buses from LA United is a constructive signal however not included within the present backlog.
Blue Bird Corporation’s fiscal 2024 first-quarter earnings name highlighted the corporate’s sturdy monetary efficiency and strategic initiatives aimed toward capitalizing on the rising demand for college buses, significantly electrical fashions. Despite challenges such because the pandemic and provide chain constraints, Blue Bird has maintained a powerful market position and is poised for continued progress within the evolving automotive business.
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Full transcript – Hennessy Capital (BLBD) Q1 2024:
Operator: Hello, all. And welcome to the Blue Bird Corporation Fiscal 2024 First Quarter Earnings. My identify is Lydia, and I’ll be your operator in the present day. [Operator Instructions]. I’ll now hand you over to your host, Mark Benfield, Head of Invest Relations, to begin.
Mark Benfield: Thank you. And welcome to Blue Bird’s fiscal 2024 first quarter earnings convention name. The audio for our name is webcast dwell on blue-bird.com underneath the Investor Relations tab. You can access supporting slides on our web site by clicking on the Presentations field on our IR web site. Our feedback in the present day embrace forward-looking statements which might be topic to dangers that might trigger precise outcomes to be materially totally different. Those dangers embrace, amongst others, issues now we have famous on the next two slides and in our filings with the SEC. Blue Bird disclaims any obligation to update the knowledge on this name. This afternoon, you may hear from Blue Bird CEO, Phil Horlock, and CFO, Razvan Radulescu. Then we’ll take some questions. Let’s get began. Phil?
Phil Horlock: Thanks, Mark. And good afternoon, all people. It’s nice to be right here and to share with you our outcomes for our fiscal 2024 first quarter. Now, you recall in our final earnings name, we reported file outcomes for fiscal 2023 fourth quarter and full 12 months. Well, I’m happy to let you know that our momentum has not slowed down in any respect, the place the Blue Bird workforce did a incredible job in delivering one other all-time file revenue within the first quarter of fiscal 2024. Razvan will likely be taking you thru the small print of our monetary outcomes shortly, so let me get began with the important thing takeaways for the primary quarter on slide 6. As the headline states, we achieved file monetary leads to the primary quarter of fiscal 2024. As I simply talked about, and as proven within the first line within the field, it was a file adjusted EBITDA for any quarter in our historical past. And our web gross sales income was a file for any quarter within the first half of fiscal 12 months. So with file earnings from income, I’m more than happy to let you know that we achieved an all-time excessive adjusted EBITDA margin of 15% within the first quarter, and we’re rising full 12 months steering as soon as once more. In just some minutes, Razvan will take you thru the monetary particulars of what was an distinctive first quarter outcomes for Blue Bird, together with a comparability with final 12 months. As we have a look at the drivers for this terrific progress in Q1, it truly is about sustaining and delivering the plan we laid out final 12 months, which focuses on making important enhancements throughout our total business. Market demand for college buses continues to be very sturdy. And our backlog for Blue Bird faculty buses was at a really wholesome 4,600 items on the finish of the primary quarter. This bodes nicely for pricing, manufacturing stability, and revenue margins. Now whereas provide chain points are undoubtedly easing, there are choose constraints on a few chassis elements throughout the truck and bus business which might be nonetheless limiting business manufacturing and deliveries, however we’re very engaged with these constrained suppliers with onsite assist at their vegetation and we’re managing the scenario nicely. On that time, regardless of this part constraint, we offered 9% extra faculty buses within the first quarter than a 12 months in the past. As I discussed final quarter, the legacy worth backlog which harm us in fiscal 2022 and within the first quarter of fiscal 2023 is totally behind us. All these low margin items have been offered. Every bus in our order backlog now displays present pricing, and we’re priced competitively, which we are able to inform from our quote win fee and our incoming orders. This is a completely totally different Blue Bird bus income and gross margin construction in contrast with only a 12 months in the past. On the EV entrance, thanks largely to the primary part of the billion {dollars} of funding from the EPA’s unprecedented $5 billion Clean School Bus program, our first quarter deliveries of electrical buses was an old time file in 1 / 4, greater than doubling from a 12 months in the past, and we ended the primary quarter with a powerful backlog of EV orders. As now we have performed for a lot of years, we once more elevated our gross sales combine of different powered autos over the past 12 months and additional strengthened our management position. The larger margins and better [indiscernible] (00:04:30) from these merchandise contributed to our revenue enchancment within the first quarter. We’ll proceed to reinvest again to the business by selectively upgrading services and processes, enhancing the plant working surroundings. And as Razvan will present you later, we’re doubling our engineering spending this 12 months as we embark on thrilling new product applications that may hit the market within the subsequent two to a few years. Through the efforts of the most effective workforce within the business, sturdy management, lean course of enhancements and sheer exhausting work, now we have been attaining among the greatest manufacturing efficiency that firm has ever achieved. Bottom line, we carried out extraordinarily nicely in a powerful market. We’re delivering a better combine of upper margin different powered autos, we’re priced competitively and appropriately for in the present day’s financial surroundings, and manufacturing efficiencies are enhancing. As a results of all these accomplishments, our first quarter profitability was an all-time file for Blue Bird of $48 million, with an distinctive adjusted EBITDA margin of 15%. Now let’s take a better have a look at the monetary and key working highlights for the primary quarter on slide 7. I need to begin by saying the primary quarter monetary efficiency is reworked from a 12 months in the past, with many file highs reported. We offered over 2,100 buses within the first quarter of fiscal 2024, which is substantial 9% or 172 buses above final 12 months. Incidentally, that’s our highest first quarter unit gross sales quantity in additional than 15 years, in what is often a seasonally challenged quarter, having simply adopted the beginning of the brand new faculty 12 months. Those unit gross sales drove first quarter web income of $318 million. That’s one other first quarter gross sales file for Blue Bird and an excellent 35% improve over the past 12 months. So a quantity up 9% and web income up 35%, the affect of upper pricing and the richer combine of different powered autos, together with EVs, is clearly evident within the income progress. As I discussed earlier, first quarter adjusted EBITDA of $48 million is one other all-time file for Blue Bird, and that is $51 million above final 12 months and nicely above that $25 million to $35 million basic steering vary of quarterly earnings that we set at our final earnings name. And lastly, adjusted free money movement for the primary quarter was about breakeven, as we protected for future materials wants, and $21 million under final 12 months when, in fiscal 2023, we had been aggressively slicing extra stock left from the prior quarter. Razvan will cowl this matter intimately in his part. Overall, with distinctive first quarter monetary outcomes and transformational beneficial properties from final 12 months. On the fitting hand aspect of the slide, you may see among the key working highlights for the business. As I discussed earlier, demand continues to be sturdy with our agency order backlog on the finish of the primary quarter with over $670 million in web income, reflecting a backlog of over 4,600 buses. Incidentally, as of Monday this week, our backlog has grown to five,000 buses. So orders clearly have not slowed down as we enter the standard seasonal order cycle for college districts and fleet operators. We raised costs significantly over the previous two years, and the typical first quarter promoting worth for bus in fiscal 2024 was an excellent 26% larger than a 12 months in the past. That’s price about $29,000 per bus in income. Parts gross sales totaled $24 million in Q1, representing a powerful 8% progress over final 12 months, within the usually slowest quarter of the 12 months for elements gross sales. Another nice consequence by the elements workforce. Turning to different powered buses, they represented our second highest mixture of gross sales in any quarter, 66% of complete unit gross sales. And that is 4 share factors larger than final 12 months. We proceed to be the undisputed chief on this area. No different main faculty bus producer comes near that quantity. Incidentally, I might be remiss if I did not point out that our principal rivals, IC and Thomas, are not providing the propane or gasoline powered faculty bus and we’re as soon as once more the one OEM supplying these necessary merchandise. EV buses had been a part of that different energy combine progress, with Q1 bookings rising by 124% over final 12 months, as we offered a quarterly file of 206 EV faculty buses. That represents an all-time excessive combine at 10% of our complete gross sales. Additionally, we left the primary quarter with 420 agency EV orders in our backlog, which is round a 9% share of our complete backlog. That’s price roughly $130 million in income. Incidentally, that backlog in the present day is now at 500 EVs, representing 10% of our complete present backlog. Clearly, we’re benefiting considerably from the billion {dollars} funding from the primary part of the EPA’s $5 billion Clean School Bus program. I’ll cowl later the thrilling information on the second part of the lately introduced EPA funding, which is larger than was anticipated and can generate important EV and propane faculty bus awards within the first half of 2024 calendar 12 months. Continuing with our EV successes, I’m extremely proud that, throughout the first quarter of fiscal 2024, we obtained the biggest single order ever of EV faculty buses from LA Unified School District following a aggressive bidding course of. That’s 180 buses in complete, with deliveries beginning late this calendar 12 months and, importantly, this order didn’t make the most of the EPA’s Clean School Bus funding program. That’s an amazing testomony to our competitiveness and to our management position within the EV section. Late within the first quarter of fiscal 2024, we introduced that now we have shaped an unique three way partnership referred to as Clean Bus Solutions. That’s a 50/50 JV with Generate Capital, who’s a number one sustainable funding and working firm targeted on infrastructure transition. Clean Bus Solutions will present electrical faculty buses and charging infrastructure as a service to Blue Bird prospects for an reasonably priced month-to-month price over the lifetime of the service. This turnkey service eliminates the everyday excessive upfront cost for a college district and pay for electrical bus when grants are restricted and handles your complete charging infrastructure together with set up. This recurring income business ought to speed up adoption of Blue Bird electrical buses by faculty districts and will likely be an amazing new gross sales software for our sellers. We’ll maintain you posted on progress for the approaching 12 months as Clean Bus Solutions begins to transact business. And lastly, on the again of our first quarter outcomes, we’re as soon as once more elevating full 12 months steering for adjusted EBITDA and adjusted free money movement. With an all-time file revenue earned Q1, reflecting a 15% adjusted EBITDA margin, I’m very pleased with our workforce’s accomplishments. I might now like handy it over to Razvan to walk by way of our fiscal 2024 first quarter monetary outcomes and up to date steering in additional element. Over to your, Razvan.
Razvan Radulescu: Thanks, Phil. And good afternoon. It’s my pleasure to share with you the monetary highlights from Blue Bird’s fiscal 2024 first quarter file outcomes. The quarter finish is predicated on a detailed date of December 30, 2023 whereas the prior 12 months was based mostly on a detailed date of December 31, 2022. We will file the 10-Q in the present day, February 7, after market shut. Our 10-Q consists of extra materials and disclosures concerning our business and monetary efficiency. We encourage you to learn the 10-Q and the necessary disclosures that it accommodates. The appendix connected to in the present day’s presentation consists of reconciliations of variations between GAAP and non-GAAP measures talked about on the decision in addition to different necessary disclaimers. Slide 9 is a abstract of the fiscal 2024 first quarter file outcomes. It was one other excellent working quarter for Blue Bird, with considerably restricted provide chain challenges and with an elevated variety of larger margin items driving each our prime line and our backside line outcomes. We considerably beat the adjusted EBITDA basic quarterly steering offered within the final earnings name. And in reality, we delivered once more the most effective quarter ever for Blue Bird, with 15% adjusted EBITDA margin. The workforce pushed exhausting and continued doing a incredible job and generated 2,129 unit gross sales quantity, which was 172 items or 9% larger than prior 12 months. Record Q1 consolidated web income of $318 million was $82 million or 35% larger than prior 12 months, pushed by a better variety of items, larger elements gross sales, improved combine of electrical buses, and pricing actions that materialized on this quarter as anticipated. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a file $48 million, pushed by excessive margins, elevated elements gross sales and margins, partly offset by elevated labor prices. The adjusted free money movement was detrimental $2 million, and $21 million decrease than the prior-year first quarter. This consequence was because of elevated profitability, which was greater than offset by a rise in strategic inventories for lengthy lead elements, a discount in accounts payable, and a discount within the EPA pay as you go obtained in fiscal 2023 This autumn. Our liquidity position on the finish of this quarter was very sturdy at $184 million. This efficiency was excellent for each the highest line and the underside line – all-time file for Q1 quarterly income of $318 million, all-time file for quarterly EV gross sales above 200 items and all-time file for quarterly adjusted EBITDA of $48 million and 15%. Moving on to slip 10, as talked about earlier than by Phil, our backlog on the finish of Q1 continues to be very sturdy at roughly 4,600 items, together with 9% EVs. Breaking down the file Q1 $318 million in revenues into our two business segments, the Bus web income was $293 million, up by $80 million versus prior 12 months. Our common bus income per unit elevated from $109,000 to $138,000 or 26%, which was largely the results of pricing actions taken over the previous 18 months, in addition to a better combine of electrical buses. EV gross sales in Q1 had been additionally at a file degree of 206 items, or 114 greater than final 12 months, a 124% improve year-over-year. We’d prefer to remind you that now we have introduced on this fiscal 12 months two worth will increase for brand spanking new orders, one in final October and one for the tip of March of $2,500 web per bus every with a purpose to cowl inflationary cost elements and important long run strategic investments. Parts income for the quarter was $24 million, representing a progress of roughly $2 million or plus 8% in comparison with the prior 12 months. This nice efficiency was partly because of elevated demand for our elements because the fleet is getting old, in addition to provide chain pushed pricing actions and throughput enhancements. Please additionally remember the fact that because of year-end holidays and Thanksgiving, our fiscal Q1 has a decrease variety of work weeks. However, this 12 months, as a result of very sturdy backlog and enhance provide chain scenario, we had been capable of preserve manufacturing ranges and didn’t take the pre-COVID traditional prolonged plant shutdown. Gross margin for the quarter was a file 20% or 17 share factors larger than final 12 months because of our improved operational efficiency and our pricing overtaking within the final two quarters the inflationary prices of the final 18-plus months. In fiscal 2024 Q1, adjusted web revenue was roughly $30 million or $40 million larger than final 12 months. Adjusted EBITDA of roughly $14 million or 15% was up in contrast with prior 12 months by $51 million and 17 share factors. Adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.91 was up $1.21 versus the prior 12 months. Slide 11 reveals the walk from fiscal 23 Q1 adjusted EBITDA to the fiscal 2024 Q1 outcomes. Starting on the left at detrimental $3.5 million, the affect of the Bus section gross revenue in complete was $55 million, break up between quantity and pricing results, web of fabric cost will increase of $48.6 million and operational enhancements of $6.4 million. The operational enhancements encompass year-over-year manufacturing effectivity and throughput enhancements, in addition to decrease freighting prices. The favorable improvement within the Parts section gross revenue was $1.1 million, pushed by larger gross sales and improved margins, as talked about earlier within the name. These nice enhancements had been barely offset by will increase in our different bills and stuck prices, primarily personnel associated of detrimental $5 million, as we continued to reinvest into our business and our groups throughout fiscal 2024. The sum complete of all the above talked about improvement drives our file fiscal 2024 Q1 reported adjusted EBITDA results of $47.6 million or 15%. Moving on to slip 12, now we have extraordinarily constructive developments year-over-year additionally on the stability sheet. We ended the quarter with $77 million in money and lowered our debt considerably by near $15 million over the past 4 quarters. Our liquidities are very sturdy at a file $184 million on the finish of fiscal 2024 Q1, $100 million improve in comparison with a 12 months in the past. The working money movement was a black zero on this quarter, pushed by an enchancment in operations and margins, which was totally offset by a rise in commerce working capital to decrease payables and better strategic inventories, a discount of our EPA pay as you go stability and the seasonal discount in different accrued bills. Moving to slip 13, as talked about in our final name, on the finish of November 2023, we refinanced our credit score facility, a big higher time period, with a 5 12 months maturity date for November 2028. The new construction consists of $100 million time period mortgage with 5% per 12 months amortization and the brand new revolver line of credit score of $150 million. The lowered covenants and the prolonged maturity of our mortgage present Blue Bird with each flexibility and stability as our business grows profitably, and we proceed to guide the college bus business within the different gas area. Slide 14 reveals the sustainable outcomes achieved by our workforce over the past 4 quarters, producing almost $140 million in adjusted EBITDA or 11%. Our quarterly revenues have been within the $300 million vary and rising, partially because of pricing realization, mixed with a quarter-by-quarter improve in EV combine, which is now at roughly 10% of our gross sales. We have crushed/raised our conservative steering each quarter as a result of excellent execution of our plans by our groups, regardless of a nonetheless troublesome provide chain surroundings with choose suppliers. The final three quarters have been within the 10% plus adjusted EBITDA vary, demonstrating that we’re delivering now persistently double-digit efficiency. Finally, you will need to word that, in contrast to within the not-too-distant previous, our pricing curve has been forward of our costing curve, particularly within the final two quarters, making ready us for the numerous investments lined up for 2024 and the contractual inflation elements anticipated forward of us. Before we discuss in regards to the up to date steering for fiscal 2024 and our long-term outlook, on slide 15, we wished to share with you once more some important investments that we’re beginning in fiscal 2024 to make sure that our worthwhile progress technique is profitable. Our engineering bills deliberate for fiscal 2024 are double the extent of fiscal 2023 as we started the combination work for the following era of gasoline and propane engines for the following degree of emission regulation. Additionally, we proceed to evolve our EV providing and plan new product security enhancement options. Finally, we’ll proceed to ramp up our funding in bringing to market the business EV chassis by the tip of calendar 2024. We are additionally planning to triple our capital investments into capability enlargement, manufacturing facility upgrade, high quality enhancements and our provide chain functionality and tooling in direction of our goal of fifty buses per day or roughly 12,000 buses per 12 months. On the individuals aspect, we skilled inflationary pressures each externally from our provide base and internally, and we proceed to offer very aggressive advantages to our staff. We are additionally launching later this 12 months a complexity discount initiative, and we’ll begin the upgrade of our ERP system in addition to modernization of our business intelligence and monetary planning and evaluation instruments. All these prices mixed can add as much as 2% to three% of our income on a run fee foundation later in fiscal 2024 and past. On slide 16, we need to share with you our up to date fiscal 2024 steering. As a reminder, we’re persevering with to take a clear and conservative method additionally this 12 months, however it’s nonetheless a considerably unsure provide chain surroundings we face. However, now we have improved already all the opposite business levers that we might handle as now demonstrated by our very sturdy trailing 12-month precise outcomes. Looking ahead with fiscal 2024, we’re sustaining our income to a spread of $1.15 billion to $1.25 billion, and we’re considerably rising our adjusted EBITDA to $130 million or roughly 11%, with a spread of $120 million to $140 million. This is a rise of almost 50% over the prior 12 months file outcomes. Due to provide chain volatility, at this level, we’re solely offering and sustaining our basic quarterly ranges, with each remaining fiscal 2024 quarter anticipated to have income between $275 million to $325 million and adjusted EBITDA within the vary of $25 million to $35 million or 9% to 11%. We will present additional updates in mid-May after we shut Q2 and collect additional perception into our provide chain capabilities to assist our sturdy backlog and rising EV combine. Moving to slip 17. In abstract, we’re forecasting a big enchancment year-over-year, with income up 6% to roughly $1.2 billion, adjusted EBITDA within the vary of $120 million to $140 million and adjusted free money movement of $60 million to $70 million, according to our typical goal of fifty% of adjusted EBITDA. On slide 18, we would like to offer you an summary of our capital allocation for fiscal 2024 and the thrilling share repurchase program we lately introduced. Our capital allocation technique balances investments for long run worthwhile progress, return of worth to our shareholders and maintains a conservative money position by year-end. On the left aspect, our sources of money encompass a really sturdy money movement from operations after tax and curiosity of $148 million, present money at fiscal 2023 year-end of $77 million and $5 million in dividends from our three way partnership in Micro Bird. We don’t count on so as to add new debt this 12 months. On the fitting aspect, now we have three makes use of of money – progress, shareholders and debt repayments. As far as progress is worried, we plan to make use of and to not exceed $25 million in every of those classes – R&D and engineering bills, CapEx for progress and upkeep, and funding our newly shaped Clean Bus Solutions JV, mixed with doubtlessly different small M&A actions. Moving on to shareholders class, we’re very pleased to have introduced lately our inventory buyback program for as much as $60 million over the following two years. This is supported by our sturdy present money and free money movement steering, and we consider it’s one of the best ways at this level to return worth to our shareholders. Finally, along with the required tern mortgage principal cost of $5 million, we plan to pay down the $35 million present revolver stability to zero throughout fiscal 2024 and preserve a conservative money stability at year-end in extra of $50 million. On slide 19, we wished to additionally reiterate our long run outlook. The 11% adjusted EBITDA margin is firmly now in our up to date quick time period outlook. And as soon as the provision chain additional normalizes, we count on to promote roughly 9,500 items, together with 1,500 items EVs, and generate $150 million on $1.35 billion in income. This may very well be as early as 2025. Looking to the medium time period, our EV progress and operational enhancements can assist volumes of 10,500 to 11,000 items, together with EVs within the vary of two,500 to three,500 items, producing revenues of $1.5 billion to $1.7 billion, with adjusted EBITDA of $175 million to $200 million or 11.5% to 12%. Our long run goal stays to drive worthwhile progress in direction of roughly $2 billion in income, comprising of as much as 12,000 items, of which as much as 5000 are EVs and generate EBITDA in extra of $250 million or 12.5% plus. We’re extremely enthusiastic about Blue Bird’s future. And now I’ll flip it again over to Phil.
Phil Horlock: Thanks, Razvan. That was an amazing clarification of our Q1 monetary outcomes and our outlook. Let’s transfer on to slip 21. I launched this slide at our final earnings name. So I will not spend as a lot time on it in the present day as our priorities and our technique are unchanged, as they need to be. The chart on the left illustrates the three priorities that proceed to drive us. We’re taking good care of our staff, delighting our prospects and sellers, and delivering worthwhile progress. The chart on the fitting offers extra textual content across the particular methods that we’re pursuing that each align with our priorities and drive our ahead 12 months progress plans. At the middle is our ultimate goal, to drive sustained worthwhile progress. As you have a look at the accomplishments in fiscal 2023, we reworked the business from losses to file profitability, attaining a full 12 months margin of 8%. For fiscal 2024, we simply elevated our full 12 months earnings steering to replicate an 11% adjusted EBITDA margin. And over the following couple of years, we plan to develop that margin 12% after which past. Our particular methods concentrate on delivering these monetary objectives and as spelled out on this chart, particularly, management in security, each within the office and with our merchandise is paramount to us. And we’re investing each engineering and CapEx in these areas in fiscal 2024. Best merchandise and options, we search to distinguish ourselves offering extra worth to our prospects. Our buses are goal constructed from the bottom up for transporting kids safely with many distinctive options. They’re not a spinoff of a truck chassis, like most of our rivals, and our prospects perceive the worth of this. Leading in high quality, sturdiness and different energy is the cornerstone of our product planning and improvement, and we’ll proceed to distinguish in these areas. Having aggressive cost by way of Lean manufacturing and environment friendly throughput, sturdy provider relationships, and sheer good product design are important to compete in a business the place aggressive bids are required. And after the sale, we have to present nice service and guarantee automobile uptime all through the 15 years or extra that our buses have to run. This means partnering with our unique seller community that covers each nook of the United States and Canada with our sellers having a mean tenure with us of over 30 years. As I’ve stated many occasions earlier than on these calls, you may’t make it within the faculty bus business with out a totally succesful and skilled seller community that may attain greater than 10,000 faculty districts that function their very own bus fleets and three,400 impartial proprietor operators of college buses. Following these core methods have been key to our transformation and can proceed to drive our ahead 12 months plans. Let’s now flip to slip 22 and have a look at the latest affect of the federal authorities’s Clean School Bus funding program, which is so necessary in serving to to speed up the adoption of electrical and propane autos in fiscal 2024 and past. As a reminder, we’re simply coming into the second 12 months of this 5 12 months program, which offers $5 billion of funding of electrical and propane powered faculty buses. There continues to be a $4 billion available after the primary 12 months of funding. The second 12 months, which is referred to by the EPA as a 2023 program, offers the 2 rounds of funding, totaling at the very least $1.5 billion. Now that is about $500 million greater than was anticipated, and it seems to be an acceleration by the EPA to deploy the $5 billion in complete funding. As the left chart reveals, Round 2 functions of the 2023 grant program had been accomplished in August 2023. And in January 2024, the EPA introduced they had been rising the funding for $400 million to $965 million as a result of excessive degree of grant functions. A complete of two,737 electrical and propane buses had been awarded, and the winners could have till December 2025 to buy their buses utilizing these awards. We count on Blue Bird buses to signify round 30% of the ultimate orders, amounting to roughly 800 electrical and propane faculty buses by way of this program. Looking on the proper chart, instantly after asserting the Round 2 award outcomes, the EPA introduced the Round 3 rebate program, which can be a part of the 2023 program, will now complete at the very least $500 million. Applications are being accepted till per week from now. It’s anticipated award winners will likely be notified by May 2024, and could have till April 2026 to buy buses and shut out their awards. If our win fee holds at about 30%, Blue Bird ought to count on to obtain round 450 electrical and propane faculty bus order from this third spherical. Together, each of those funding rounds ought to generate orders for at the very least 4,300 electrical and propane faculty buses and related infrastructure, which is nice for the business and in significantly for Blue Bird with about 1,250 orders anticipated. Now with the deadline for buy from grants from these two rounds being as late as April 2026, there’s a probability that orders and corresponding deliveries may very well be late than now we have been anticipating, pushing again deliveries into fiscal 2025 as finish prospects deal first with their charging infrastructure wants. We will work with our sellers and finish prospects to drag out as many as we are able to into fiscal 2024, however for prudency, now we have reduce our EV bookings forecast for this 12 months from 900 items to 800 items. So let me now wrap up the earnings name and the outlook for the business on slide 23. Razvan took you thru the raised steering for fiscal 2024, and I’m displaying you a few of these metrics on the midpoint of steering right here. We have been prudent on our bookings outlook, solely rising quantity by 3% over fiscal 2023 right now, as we nonetheless take care of two particular suppliers of constrained chassis elements which might be impacting the broader truck and bus industries. But we did handle these very nicely in 2023. And if we are able to build extra in fiscal 2024, we’ll, simply as we did final 12 months. Net income of $1.2 billion will likely be a brand new file for Blue Bird, up 6% from fiscal 2023. Adjusted EBITDA steering of $130 million is almost 50% larger than the file $88 million we delivered in fiscal 2023. Importantly, we’re planning an 11% EBITDA margin in fiscal 2024, up 3 share factors from fiscal 2023, which is a few years forward of the plan now we have been sharing with you. We trust in attaining this margin after recording a formidable 15% adjusted EBITDA margin within the first quarter of fiscal 2024. It needs to be famous that the primary quarter did profit from an exceptionally excessive mixture of EVs at 10% of unit gross sales, inside a powerful complete combine of different gas autos at 66% of gross sales. Now this combine could not repeat by way of all quarters, particularly with prolonged time granted by the EPA for purchasers to finish their buy and deployment of the brand new EV funding awards that I discussed earlier. You keep in mind that’s as late as April 2026 to get them in service. Further, as Razvan identified, we’re doubling engineering work in fiscal 2024 in assist of latest product applications, which is contained inside our 11% margin outlook for fiscal 2024 full 12 months, together with the potential financial affect of our first collective bargaining settlement with the USW that is anticipated later within the 12 months. Finally, as I discussed earlier, we’re trying to develop EV unit gross sales to 800 buses in fiscal 2024. That’s a considerable 47% improve over our gross sales final 12 months. As you may see on the fitting chart, there may be nonetheless a variety of pent up demand following the low business gross sales in 2020, 2021 and 2022. And the bus fleet has aged by a few years. ACT is forecasting a compound annual business progress fee of seven% from the tip of fiscal 2023 by way of fiscal 2027. And that is nice information for our business and it is nice information for our revenue outlook. With residual provide chain challenges nonetheless impacting the auto business, the power to build all of the items close to time period will not be a given, however the demand is clearly there, and that is what’s actually necessary. After executing a considerable transformation throughout our business, the corporate is performing extraordinarily nicely. We’ll proceed to enhance working efficiency, and sit up for sustained worthwhile progress within the sturdy market forward. On that word, as Razvan lined in his session, our lately introduced $60 million share repurchase program illustrates our confidence within the business outlook, our potential to generate money and our dedication to drive shareholder worth. The future is extremely vibrant for Blue Bird and we’re assured in attaining what has been our long run purpose of 12% EBITDA margin inside the subsequent couple of years. I need to thank our almost 2,000 staff for all of the exhausting work and dedication, delivering our all-time file quarterly revenue in Q1 on prime of a file full 12 months revenue final 12 months, in addition to our excellent seller physique who’re important to our successes. That concludes our formal presentation in the present day. I delegate it again to our moderator for the Q&A session. Thank you.
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. Our first query in the present day comes from Mike Shlisky of D.A. Davidson.
Michael Shlisky: I assume I wished to ask first in regards to the quarterly outlook that you just put on the market. Kind of you raised from final quarter that. The lowest quarter of the 12 months will likely be $275 million. You simply put up 1 / 4 of $318 million in your fiscal first quarter, which I consider is normally the least income simply due to the college calendar in most fiscal years. I’m having a tough time determining, and I do acknowledge that there was some EVs in there, even attempting to again out the value impact of EVs, it is exhausting to think about if the remainder of the 12 months usually from a unit degree, whether or not it is EV or ICE (NYSE:), in the event that they’re normally up within the first quarter, you having 1 / 4 this 12 months that’s $275 million. I’m curious, is there something on the calendar or schedule that we needs to be fascinated with right here that I’m lacking that may trigger you to have 1 / 4 that may have prime line of about $275 million?
Razvan Radulescu: Regarding the seasonality of Q1, so earlier than COVID, certainly, this was the bottom income and lowest variety of items as a result of, traditionally, we took prolonged shutdown for the plant to do prolonged upkeep work, but in addition as a result of, at the moment, the order backlog was very low after the beginning of the college 12 months. And so, as I discussed in my remarks, this 12 months, we maintained the velocity of manufacturing and we didn’t take an prolonged shutdown. So we solely took a few days round Christmas and Thanksgiving break. So we did have certainly extra working days on this Q1 than ever earlier than. In phrases of the remaining quarters, we need to be conservative in our income steering. And as I stated, provide chain nonetheless has some constraints, particularly with two explicit suppliers. So ought to the provision of elements be decrease than the midpoint, that is how we’d get to a decrease quarter under $300 million, whether or not it comes by way of the full variety of buses or by way of the % of EV inside that quantity.
Michael Shlisky: And simply to observe up there, do you’ve any deliberate shutdown for the remainder of the 12 months simply to sort of make up what you could not do within the first quarter or you are going to go ahead with it, take into consideration subsequent…?
Phil Horlock: We’re capable of flex up if we are able to later within the 12 months. I discussed on my feedback that, like we did final 12 months, we are able to build extra, we’ll build extra, and that is the place we stand. But we have been a little bit conservative. We’re very energetic with a few constrained suppliers, as we talked about. Really nice, clearly, throughput by way of the primary quarter. We’ve simply been a bit prudent within the stability of the 12 months at this level.
Michael Shlisky: It’s nice to see that you just additionally had progress within the unit gross sales throughout the quarter too. That was thrilling. It does not seem to me as if a few of your rivals had progress of their unit gross sales within the quarter. Can you touch upon Blue Bird’s market share? You assume you are gaining share? And should you might give me two solutions, one on the ICE aspect and one on the EV aspect, it will likely be appreciated.
Phil Horlock: Well, we do not have a tendency to speak an excessive amount of about share. We undoubtedly have gained some share over the past trailing 12 months. Obviously, within the fiscal 12 months, it is a quick timeframe now and issues change and totally different – we’re simply coming into what we name the larger order season, frankly, when individuals ramp up and begin fascinated with buses for college begin. But I’ll say, our share is powerful. It’s holding nicely. Numerous exercise. Numerous curiosity. I discussed about our win fee. And order fee helps a powerful demand. So I believe we’re feeling – we’re assured of what we’re saying. We have nice religion in our potential. And now we have an amazing product vary too that is very costly. I’ve talked many occasions about nobody has a product vary we have from electrical to propane to gasoline to diesel, on Type 8, Type As, we’re Type Cs and Type D. So we received by far the most effective product vary. So we’re assured in our outlook and what we’re doing.
Michael Shlisky: Maybe one final one for me. The elevated engineering prices that you just talked about, $25 million, perhaps rather less than that, that roughly equates to about 2 factors of margin on this 12 months’s steering. So, might you perhaps inform us, do you assume that – it feels like, with out that, you would be at EBITDA margins of maybe 13% this 12 months. Are these one-time prices – and if we had been to see a flat 12 months subsequent 12 months, simply to as a thought experiment, try to be seeing a 13% EBITDA margin business, 9% to 11% EBITDA margin business in a extra normalized engineering funding surroundings.
Razvan Radulescu: The year-over-year improve is $12.5 million. So it doubled to $25 million. So that is about 1% of gross sales on a year-over-year foundation. And we do count on to keep up this elevated degree for the following couple of years. Some of those tasks are multiple-year tasks, particularly with powertrain, and another product enhancements. So for the following couple of years, we’ll maintain this degree.
Operator: Our subsequent query comes from Eric Stine of Craig-Hallum.
Eric Stine: First of all, I’ve been protecting you for a very long time, to see almost $50 million in EBITDA within the first quarter is sort of one thing. And with that in thoughts, as I take into consideration the rest of the 12 months, and also you simply touched on it, however perhaps I’ll ask it a unique method or make clear. So, Phil, had been you saying that you’ve got had worth will increase and now you are truly a little bit bit forward of the place you see supplies cost scale? If that’s the case, is that one thing the place you assume perhaps EBITDA is extra skewed in direction of the primary half than the second? I assume I’ll begin there.
Phil Horlock: I believe Razvan talked about in his script. So I’ll simply let – he needs to only leap in right here on this one.
Razvan Radulescu: As I discussed in my remarks, certainly, our pricing curve is now head of the costing curve, particularly for the final two quarters. And additionally, as highlighted with upcoming investments, whether or not it is on the product and powertrain and R&D, whether or not it is into CapEx and manufacturing capabilities, which incorporates additionally a part of NRE in there, whether or not it is inflation from the provision chain or on the individuals aspect, all these prices are coming principally beginning in Q2, Q3 and This autumn. So, the prices are back-end loaded. And the pricing curve is now, for instance, almost maximized for the 12 months. So certainly, we do count on considerably decrease EBITDA in Q2 to This autumn in comparison with Q1.
Phil Horlock: You recall what we stated Eric was that we priced $2,500 in each bus mounted worth in October, begin of our fiscal 12 months. And then we priced once more six months later. Another pre worth improve will go on. Dealers find out about it. They have it, accepted it. When we bid with our sellers, we have a look at – each single bid we do, now we have a chance to regulate the value up or regulate it down as we see match with our sellers. But we’re retaining actually, actually shut tabs on this. And I believe as Razvan defined, we have used the time period conservative in our outlook for the remainder of the 12 months and we proceed to be so as a result of you may by no means know what occurs in a constrained surroundings we’re nonetheless coping with. So I believe the position we’re in proper now is an efficient position to be.
Eric Stine: I can admire nonetheless being conservative, given all what is going on on. Maybe simply turning to the EPA funding you talked about. Well, to start with, good to see that the deadlines to really get the funding that that is been closed out. I do know, for spherical one, the infrastructure was an enormous challenge. As you consider attempting to drag issues as a lot as you may ahead into fiscal 2024, the place do you assume issues stand on the infrastructure aspect? Is that also a limiting issue? Do you see that easing in any respect?
Phil Horlock: Yeah, I believe it undoubtedly is. Look, I believe everybody’s getting higher at it. We’re energetic with a number of infrastructure suppliers. But I believe actually the tempo of exercise within the first 12 months of this caught a couple of without warning. They weren’t fairly prepared for the utility corporations, all of the charging gear was in the fitting place. And truly, I believe I’ve talked about the final name, I believe it was three autos had been canceled. Others had a variety of cancellations as a result of they weren’t prepared and so they simply pulled out. And I believe that is actually the gating issue I used to be mentioning after I was being a little bit cautious. I stated, look, second half of this 12 months, we have – awards are being granted and given to individuals for each these rounds, for instance, by May. And then they have till April 2026 because the endpoint which to put in these buses in. And they are going to work on charging stations first, it feels prefer to me, and we’re serving to them. And we engaged on the chargers they want. But clearly, it might nicely push again a little bit bit when they need their buses. They’re not going to get buses earlier than they know they received charging stations in place. And that is the problem now for all of us on this business to assist that and transfer it alongside. The incredible information is EPA stepped up this spherical two and spherical three to $1.5 billion. We thought it was going to be $1 billion for the 12 months. $1.5 billion for the 12 months. Well, they’ve prolonged the timeframe. Now, like I stated earlier than, we will do the whole lot we are able to to speed up our deployment as a result of we like doing that. I believe it is the fitting factor to do. And we’ll work with the charging guys that we work with and others, and we’ll work with our finish prospects too to assist them.
Eric Stine: Maybe final one for me simply on the Clean Bus Solutions three way partnership. Just curious, early returns on that? And is that one thing the place you’ll count on – do you see individuals ready to see if the EPA, in the event that they’re capable of get both grants or rebates? If not, then they flip to the three way partnership in that financing answer? Or do you assume that that is not essentially the case and that folks go that route regardless, simply having a month-to-month cost that is much like diesel?
Phil Horlock: Yeah. I have a look at it this manner. First of all, clearly, EPA grants are actually thrilling. We have 500,000 faculty buses on the highway, and we’re speaking about funding 4,300 with this subsequent spherical. So there’s an enormous urge for food and big oversubscription of college districts that need electrical buses. That’s why they stepped up this $1 billion to $1.5 billion. So the EPA – there is a large demand is what I’m saying. So undoubtedly outdoors of this, outdoors of the EPA money, and there are different grants round, by the way in which, there are issues referred to as HVIP and TVIP in numerous states. But this Clean Bus Solutions offers an opportunity for actually reasonably priced – do away with the upfront stick shock of an EV, get it put in in your business rapidly, in your district rapidly. So we’re very enthusiastic about that. So they go hand in hand frankly. Obviously, the EPA is such an incredible alternative to speed up. But our Clean Bus Solutions exercise too, we received a ton of curiosity in it from our sellers and their prospects. And we’ll simply maintain working that by way of the 12 months right here and allow you to know after we get our transactions begin hitting.
Operator: Our subsequent query comes from Craig Irwin of ROTH-MKM.
Craig Irwin: Congratulations on the actually sturdy quarter. Much deserved. Even coming into the quarter, there was various curiosity across the gross margin trajectory. And you gave us simply one other actually chunky quantity this quarter. Can you perhaps discuss a little bit bit in regards to the retreat of your competitors, the opposite main faculty bus OEMs retreating from the choice gas markets and the way this might affect your gross margins? In the traditional business, the business the place you’ve got excelled over the past many years, does this affect the long term potential margin trajectory for Blue Bird? And then, how ought to we be taking a look at EV combine and the affect on margins over the following couple of quarters? Is this can be a part of the conservatism that you just’re giving us within the ahead steering feedback?
Phil Horlock: I do not actually prefer to touch upon what our competitors is doing. What I do know is that we bid collectively on state bids, we attend totally different conferences, and we’re there collectively and so they’re not providing the product that we’re each providing, the propane and gasoline. They simply received a diesel and electrical providing as within the market. All I can let you know is we picked a unique competitor, proper? We’re in our thirteenth – 14th 12 months truly now with an unique with Ford (NYSE:) and Roush, which is a reasonably sturdy relationship now we have. There was an organization referred to as PSI and so they’re not providing it. So, I’d defer to them on why they did that. Obviously, it is thrilling for us. We are the leaders on this area. You have a look at our mixture of old gas autos, it has been over 60%. Old energy, as they’re referred to as, options diesel for fairly some time now. Our competitors’s footprint has been fairly totally different, even with that energy prepare that that they had. And so, yeah, we’re excited in regards to the alternative that brings as a result of our propane we all know is ultra-low emissions. It’s an amazing product. It will get an amazing rebate and a grant from the EPA fund to make it very engaging. There are different grants round to assist it. It’s a terrific product together with our low upkeep gasoline product that is tremendous cheap to run. So, you set that collectively, we really feel in fine condition. I’m not going to commit on – I see large showgirls right here. But I can let you know clearly, not surprisingly, we’re taking a look at who’s driving these buses in the present day and what we are able to do for them. So, that is actually necessary. If I can transfer to the EV combine aspect, it is a troublesome one to foretell. Obviously, 10% combine within the first quarter, we received 10%, combine in our present backlog. We’re speaking about 800 now on our quantity of kind of 8,750, we’re taking a look at midpoint, or extra like 9% in complete for the 12 months. And we’re simply ready to see – an enormous piece of that would be the EPA grants. So I’m just a bit cautious on how rapidly these awards, after they’re given, how rapidly the audit goes to return in, how rapidly we are able to build them [indiscernible]. And that is pushed by two, when do they need it and when can we build it? There are nonetheless constraints within the battery business. There’s nobody battery producer on the market building packs that may say, I can build something you need at no matter tempo you need. One lately dropped out, should you like. [indiscernible]. So, it does not have an effect on us. But however, it is a signal of issues which might be taking place within the business. So I believe we have been a little bit prudent proper now and doubtless taking a look at – as I’ve laid out, 808 on 8,750, complete quantity, in all probability an 8% to 9% combine for the stability of the 12 months. If we are able to build extra, if we get extra orders in, we actually will as a result of it is a precedence for us with the margins on these merchandise, clearly, and prospects who need the most effective product available in the market. So that is about the place we’re, Craig. I hope that solutions your query.
Craig Irwin: My subsequent query is round your expectations, you set within the presentation across the EPA Clean School Bus program, Round 2 and Round 3. The 30% win fee is dramatically decrease than your long run share within the different fuels markets. And it actually is generally the identical individuals, the identical group at EPA that is dealing with the awards, the vouchers for the adoption of EV faculty buses, these funding alternatives which might be so necessary. You’ve performed method higher than 30% with them prior to now. Can you perhaps discuss a little bit bit about whether or not or not you assume that that EPA is underneath strain to share this between totally different OEMs, if there’s perhaps simply elements available in the market that you just’re contemplating with information of various applications and totally different commitments from prospects? And why 30%, I assume is the query I’m asking you.
Phil Horlock: Why 30% is a goal we put on the market. There’s a variety of exercise round this. And while you have a look at who’s bidding, we all know it is ourselves and our main rivals, IC and Thomas, [indiscernible], BYD (SZ:), you understand these guys, you cowl all of them, they’re all in there. Have they actually penetrated our business of college buses considerably? Not the newer guys. If you have a look at it in totality, it’s the large three, so to talk, proper, who tends to get the majority of the business. But I believe, proper now, I do not see the EPA is focusing on share on this. They’re not taking a look at it. When you have a look at the final grant spherical, whereas we received a variety of – that is the one I’m speaking now, the 2023 grant that we referred to as it Round A that was simply introduced. We kind of know the place we stand on that to this point. Numerous fleet prospects received some awards, and so they’ll be selecting their very own buses. Numerous faculty districts that we historically have not offered to received a variety of awards. Other fleet operators – and I’m speaking in regards to the likes of – everyone knows them, proper? First Student, NEC, STA, they received awards. So, clearly, they have not chosen which bus they are going to use but as such. So we’re being a little bit prudent, proper? 30% is an efficient goal to go for. Love to see us beat. We’re undoubtedly beating it in the present day taking a look at our market share. I can see the place we’re. But that is open to all people to use. And clearly, all these producers are placing in functions. All these sellers are placing in functions and plenty of finish prospects as potential are placing them in. So we’ve not received this captive to ourselves. This is kind of broad community of all these districts and operators on the market. What we have to ensure is – we’ll try to do our greatest to ensure they decide our buses. That’s what we will work on, however we put 30% on the market as a goal.
Craig Irwin: My final query is actually one in every of clarification. The 180 buses from LA United, what a win, proper? No EPA funding behind that and it is actually simply state and native funding. So a very sturdy win. Are these 180 items included within the 420 that you just stated was in backlog on the finish of December or is incremental to the EV faculty bus backlog?
Phil Horlock: They weren’t within the backlog on the finish of the [indiscernible]. They’re not in that quantity. Correct.
Craig Irwin: Hey, congrats on the quarter.
Operator: We don’t have any additional questions within the queue. So I’ll flip the decision again over to Phil Horlock for any closing remarks.
Phil Horlock: Well, thanks, Lydia. And thanks, everybody, for becoming a member of us on the decision in the present day. We do admire your continued curiosity in Blue Bird and we sit up for updating you once more on our progress subsequent quarter. Just a few feedback, I believe final 12 months you noticed the momentum rising all year long, profitability improved as we moved by way of the quarters. And now we have continued on the identical path by delivering spectacular all-time file quarterly revenue within the first quarter of fiscal 2024. And with that strong base behind us, that is why we raised our steering as soon as once more, projecting a full-year adjusted EBITDA margin of 11% for fiscal 2024. As a reminder, that could be a full 3 share factors above final 12 months’s then file profitability degree. And we’re assured in attending to a 12% margin inside a few years as the provision chain constraints proceed to ease and we might develop in our business. So with that, any additional questions, please do not hesitate to observe up with our head of investor relations, Mark Benfield. And thanks once more for all of you for becoming a member of us in the present day at Blue Bird and have an amazing night. Good evening.
Operator: This concludes in the present day’s name. Thank you for becoming a member of.
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